Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/20/2003 08:02 AM House STA

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HB  46-PRIMARY ELECTION BALLOTS                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1551                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WEYHRAUCH  announced that  the last  order of  business was                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 46, "An Act relating to ballots."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1520                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE HAWKER, Alaska  State Legislature, sponsor of                                                               
HB 46, explained that in  the [Twenty-Second] Legislative session                                                               
some changes  were made  to the  state's structure  of conducting                                                               
primary elections, which limited the  voting ability of people by                                                               
requiring them  to select  a ballot from  one of  the established                                                               
political  parties  in the  state.    He  said  that it  was  not                                                               
foreseen  that there  could be  items  on the  ballot that  don't                                                               
involve  voting   for  candidates  -  ballot   propositions,  for                                                               
example.   Representative  Hawker  told the  House State  Affairs                                                               
Standing Committee  that his constituents have  expressed concern                                                               
regarding being  forced to choose  a political party  ballot when                                                               
doing  something  as simple  as  choosing  to  vote only  on  the                                                               
issues,  for example.    He  stated that  he  felt the  situation                                                               
needed to  be remedied  as a  matter of equity.   He  mentioned a                                                               
committee substitute that had been offered to the committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1425                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 46  [Version 23-LS0298\D, Kurtz, 2/11/03].                                                               
There being no objection, Version D was before the committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1398                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER stated  that the purpose of  [Version D] is                                                               
to  clarify the  intent of  the legislation.   Specifically,  the                                                               
[proposed  legislation]  requires   the  Division  of  Elections,                                                               
during  the  preparation of  ballots  for  primary elections,  to                                                               
prepare  a separate  ballot that  only contains  the propositions                                                               
and issues  to be  voted on.   He clarified  that that  would not                                                               
change  the   already  existing  ballots  containing   the  party                                                               
candidates and issues.   Persons choosing to vote  in the primary                                                               
election  may choose  only one  ballot, which  would include  the                                                               
nonparty issues ballot [if this  legislation is passed], he said.                                                               
Representative  Hawker  stated  his belief  that  this  [proposed                                                               
legislation] levels  the playing  field and encourages  the right                                                               
and responsibility of all people to vote in the State of Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1292                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG said  he thinks the bill is  a good one.                                                               
He  stated his  belief  that  with the  current  scrutiny of  the                                                               
[state's] budget,  it is very  important for the fiscal  notes to                                                               
be  accurate.   He told  the sponsor  that he  thinks that  it is                                                               
inconceivable that  [the proposed legislation] could  have a zero                                                               
fiscal note,  because [the  Division of  Elections] will  have to                                                               
print an extra ballot.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG opined that the  question to be asked is                                                               
if  there  is additional  cost  to  the division,  regardless  of                                                               
whether the division can absorb it.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1116                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER responded  that he  followed the  language                                                               
provided by the  Division of Elections during  the preparation of                                                               
the  fiscal note.   He  stated his  understanding, regarding  the                                                               
process  of preparing  ballots for  election,  that the  division                                                               
would  not  incur any  incremental  cost  in  excess of  what  it                                                               
currently spends in preparation for elections.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  noted  that the  House  State  Affairs                                                               
Standing Committee  is the  committee of  first referral  and the                                                               
[House Finance  Committee] is "normally" the  committee of second                                                               
referral.   He added, "And  the precedent  that we set  will come                                                               
around to haunt us."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0978                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked if "these ballots"  are generated on                                                               
a  contract  and  asked  if [the  Division  of  Elections]  could                                                               
identify what the differential would  be in the bid with multiple                                                               
ballots.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  replied that he  did not know  the answer.                                                               
He said  he believes someone  from the Division of  Elections was                                                               
available to address that line of questioning.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0860                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  GLAISER, Director,  Division of  Elections, Office  of the                                                               
Lieutenant  Governor, answered  Representative Gruenberg's  query                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     That appropriation  was for  a six-ballot  primary, and                                                                    
     this  year   we've  sent   out  notifications   to  the                                                                    
     Republican Moderates  and to the Green  Party that they                                                                    
     are below  the 3 percent,  so that the likelihood  of a                                                                    
     six-ballot  primary  next  time  is unlikely.    So  we                                                                    
     thought  it was  justified to  say that  we can  absorb                                                                    
     those costs, because we've  been given an appropriation                                                                    
     that allows  for six ballots,  which really would  be a                                                                    
     seventh ballot,  which is  the way  it was  referred to                                                                    
     previously.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0795                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  referred to  Sonneman v. State,  a case                                                             
regarding  the constitutionality  of  the  rolling ballot,  where                                                               
"the order of the people would vary,  so the person at the top of                                                               
the  ballot would  not continue  to occupy  that advantage."   He                                                               
reported that  the cost  to do  one extra  ballot statewide  - in                                                               
order to  roll it  - would  have been $50,000.   He  continued as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     That testimony  impelled the [Alaska] Supreme  Court to                                                                    
     uphold the constitutionality of  no rolling ballot.  It                                                                    
     was  absolutely  outcome-determinative.   And  a  small                                                                    
     fiscal   note   like    this   can   have   tremendous,                                                                    
     unanticipated consequences.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0688                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  referring to the previous  testimony of                                                               
Ms. Glaiser, stated the following:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     And  here,  what  you're saying  Ms.  Glaiser  is  that                                                                    
     because a couple of minor  parties are no longer on the                                                                    
     ballot, there  will be  a cost savings.   So,  in fact,                                                                    
     there  would be  a  lapse, or  additional money  coming                                                                    
     back to  the state from  this one little  item, because                                                                    
     you're  not  going to  have  to  have as  many  ballots                                                                    
     printed.  If this bill  passes, you'll still be able to                                                                    
     absorb it,  but the  money coming  back to  the general                                                                    
     fund will  be less.   So there  really is a  cost, it's                                                                    
     just that  the savings will be  less.  And for  ... all                                                                    
     of  these reasons  I think  that it's  really important                                                                    
     that we have accurate fiscal notes.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0655                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BERKOWITZ  stated  that  he wants  to  echo  what                                                               
Representative  Gruenberg said.    In this  case,  the amount  of                                                               
money  is small,  but there  could be  other instances  involving                                                               
substantial amounts  of money.   He noted that he  believes there                                                               
was  an  overestimation  of  $12  million  this  year  for  pupil                                                               
allocation, for example.   He said that that money  ought to come                                                               
back to the  general fund, [the legislature] ought  to know about                                                               
it, and, if it is to be  reappropriated, it ought to be listed on                                                               
the  fiscal notes.    He said,  "It's  absolutely imperative  for                                                               
truth and honesty in budgeting that these numbers be available."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0581                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SEAN  HALLORAN testified  that he  is not  [affiliated] with  any                                                               
group,  including   political  parties,   which  is  why   he  is                                                               
testifying and  also why  he is suing  the Division  of Elections                                                               
over the "current  scheme that's in place right now."   He stated                                                               
his belief  that the current  "scheme," which requires  voters to                                                               
choose a  political party in  order to be  allowed to vote  on an                                                               
initiative, referendum, or any other  ballot measure on a primary                                                               
election day, is unconstitutional.   He opined that [the proposed                                                               
legislation] is  one of many  "fixes" that could  be implemented.                                                               
All the  "fixes" have one thing  in common, he said,  which is to                                                               
make  a state  ballot, as  opposed to  a political  party ballot,                                                               
available to voters.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HALLORAN  explained  that   political  parties  are  private                                                               
organizations that  have a right  to exclude "under the  law" any                                                               
voters who are not members of  that party.  Currently, if each of                                                               
the political parties closed its  primary [election ballot], then                                                               
no one who wasn't a member of  a political party would be able to                                                               
vote.   He suggested that  if [the legislature] is  worried about                                                               
the  cost of  another ballot,  for example,  it could  "just have                                                               
initiatives  decided  at  the general  election,  instead  of  on                                                               
primary election  day, when  [there is]  a statewide  ballot with                                                               
state issues and state races being conducted."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HALLORAN said  that the "fix" will have to  be done sooner or                                                               
later,  either voluntarily  [through  legislation],  or when  the                                                               
court declares the current system  unconstitutional.  He told the                                                               
committee that, "on the last election  day - last summer," he got                                                               
a  restraining order  from the  court which  allowed him  to vote                                                               
without expressing a  preference for a political party.   He said                                                               
he  received hundreds  of phone  calls within  a couple  of weeks                                                               
after  that election,  from people  congratulating  him [for  his                                                               
action]  and saying  that they  wished they  had "done  something                                                               
similar themselves."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0270                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  noted his own following  two "fixes" to                                                               
the  problem:   First, the  elimination of  primaries altogether,                                                               
which would  amount to a  considerable savings to the  state; and                                                               
second,  the  elimination  of  state  recognition  for  political                                                               
party.   He  reiterated  Mr. Halloran's  previous statement  that                                                               
political  parties are  private organizations,  and he  said that                                                               
state  subsidization of  them is  "somewhat questionable"  in his                                                               
mind, as well.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0209                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HALLORAN stated  his opinion  that  both of  [Representative                                                               
Berkowitz's] alternatives would be perfectly acceptable.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0177                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BERKOWITZ  responded  as  follows:    "It  always                                                               
strikes  me as  peculiar  that  the state  keeps  track of  which                                                               
political  party people  have  joined.   I  think  it's a  fairly                                                               
intrusive thing.   They  don't keep  track of  people's religion,                                                               
they don't  keep track  of people's  gender, and  it seems  to me                                                               
political affiliation is a first amendment association right."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HALLORAN said he agrees with Representative Berkowitz.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0072                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN said he supports the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLM  moved  to  report  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute for  HB 46, Version  23-LS0298\D, Kurtz,  2/11/03, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal  notes.   [No objection  was stated  and CSHB
46(STA)  was   moved  from  the  House   State  Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-12, SIDE A                                                                                                            
Number 0014                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[The following  testimony regarding  HB 46  was allowed  by Chair                                                               
Weyhrauch after bill action was taken.]                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER  RUDINGER, Executive  Director,  Alaska Civil  Liberties                                                               
Union, spoke  on behalf  of that organization  in support  of the                                                               
committee  substitute  for HB  46.    She  told the  House  State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee that  ACLU is a nonpartisan, nonprofit                                                               
organization, with  over a  thousand members in  the state.   Its                                                               
mission is  to defend the  Bill of  Rights and the  guarantees of                                                               
individual liberties  that are found in  the Alaska constitution.                                                               
Ms.  Rudinger said  people contacted  the ACLU  in late  July and                                                               
early August  [2002] regarding the issue  previously discussed by                                                               
Mr. Halloran.   She said, "We  looked into their complaints.   We                                                               
concluded they  had a great  case.   Due to time  constraints, we                                                               
assured them  that we would  work for  a legislative fix,  and we                                                               
thought  this would  be a  no-brainer."   She stated  that "their                                                               
first amendment rights to association  and speech, and also their                                                               
Alaska  constitutional right  to privacy  was being  infringed by                                                               
the current system."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[CSHB 46(STA) was reported from committee.]                                                                                     

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